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iMIS 15 server on windows xp

Posted March 17th, 2010 by Anna
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Hi,

we are currently on iMIS 10.6.30.15 and would like to upgrade to iMIS 15. We dont have a server yet and all the machines are on a workgroup. One of the XP machines is the iMIS 10.6 server and all machines connect to the MSDE database on that machine. We are planning to integrate the website with iMIS in the future but can we install iMIS 15 server on a windows xp machine? It fits the minimum requirements in terms of hardware but does not run windows server OS or does not have Sql server. Has the basic MSDE that comes with iMIS. Do we need to buy sql server license as well?

Thanks! 

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Probably, but with limits

On March 17th, 2010 Bruce Wilson says:

Hi, Anna,

XP and MSDE have all the necessary components to run iMIS15, but there are some limits you should be aware of.

Most notably, IIS 6 running on XP limits the number of simultaneous connections.  Since web browsers often open multiple connects to the same server in order to download faster, this could result in your users getting frequent "server not available" messages, or missing images or scripts.  I have an iMIS 15 server running on XP in a virtual machine, and when the server is under even moderate load (such as when the site starts up), I very frequently get "server not available" errors.  If I access the Casual site from inside the VM, the errors are gone.  (IIS6 on XP doesn't limit local connections, only remote connections.)

Since many features of iMIS15 desktop are borrowed from the Casual site, this could affect you even if you don't use the casual view directly.

That being said, my VM doesn't have the horsepower (CPU, RAM) of a dedicated machine.  If your "server" machine is dedicated to SQL and IIS, has at least two processors and 2GB of RAM, you might find that it works well.  If the machine is also your file server, print server, mail server or web server, adjust your expectations down significantly.

If you make a test copy of your database and upgrade that first (which is good advice anyway), you should be able to see how well it works.

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Bruce Wilson
Director, Technical Services
RSM McGladrey, Inc.

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Hi, Bruce.  Forgive my

On March 17th, 2010 mstraka says:

Hi, Bruce.  Forgive my ignorance, but how do you get IIS 6 to even run on XP?  I thought that you could only run IIS 5, which will not allow you to get to the app pool to make any changes needed to run iMIS 15.1. 

Is there some secret you can share?

Milissa

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App pool

On March 17th, 2010 Bruce Wilson says:

I'm not sure, but I believe the App Pool setting you make in IIS 6 and 7 is just a backwards compatibility mode to make it function like 5/5.1.  In other words, XP is already running in the correct mode, so no adjustment is needed.

I certainly wouldn't want to use XP to support any environment where splitting the app pools was necessary, such as two or more websites, but for testing, it's more than adequate.

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Bruce Wilson
Director, Technical Services
RSM McGladrey, Inc.

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IIS?

On March 17th, 2010 Anna says:

Bruce,

Thanks for replying.

I also had the same question as the previous comment. I thought IIS only existed on windows server. I have created sites and dropped it in IIS folder before but that was in windows server not on XP.

Also, do i need to get a sql server license for iMIS 15. I wont be able to query or write triggers only with an MSDE right?

Thanks!

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Anna, you will move from

On March 17th, 2010 mstraka says:

Anna, you will move from MSDE to SQL Server Express Edition, which is basically "SQL Server Light".  It supports triggers, views and stored procedures.

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IIS on XP

On March 17th, 2010 Bruce Wilson says:

Yes, you can install IIS on Windows XP.  (I checked: XP Pro has IIS 5.1.  5.0 was in Windows 2000, 6.0 is on Server 2003)

IIS is installed through Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Add Windows Components.  Grab your XP media if needed, and check the iMIS install instructions for the specific components you need.

SQL Express is just a newer name for MSDE.  It's the same product under the hood.  They did raise some of the internal limits on connections and performance, but nothing that would enable/disable iMIS functionality.

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Bruce Wilson
Director, Technical Services
RSM McGladrey, Inc.

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